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I only ask one thing of this thread: No fighting about how we are going
to talk about this. We are doing it in a thread, right here, right now.
No debate on that fact.

+1

I think if we were to pull in stories from outside sources and discuss
them it would increase activity. I am not talking of auto adding an rss
feed, but say I find something interesting on inc/techcrunch/digg/etc
and post it for our own non flame bait/youtube style discussion, it will
help provide activity, and possibly spark new conversations on similar
but different topics.

Agreed to an extent. But what makes us different from a Slashdot, say?

I think everyone is for discussion, it isn't clear what we want to discuss. The no-Q&A based forum ideology seems to be agreed upon.

PS: I've written a short email to the mailing list, hope all those who arrived here later will eventually get to this thread.

HTML tags don't work with the new WYSIWYG editor.

I think what kreitje is saying is that we could generate initial content
and debate using that format, and once a general community of regular
visitors has been established, we can move away from that format. I
agree with this also.

Ah. In that case, I agree. We need to do more than just that, but certainly a good idea.

That's an interesting way of looking at it.

I would totally agree with Grant's and kreitje's opinions.

A few points to make ...

OK, so if we disable this WYSIWYG, should we add any other plugin instead? Maybe a simpler one? Just like in most other forums (adding [b], [i] and etc)? BTW. Do we want to keep vanilla unchanged and use plugins only or are we going to modify vanilla it self? I think it might be required to add one or other function...

But again, I've got a question... Are we going to modify Vanilla code or use plugins only?

I've been thinking of the whole discussion based forum idea. I've begun to be less resistant to Q&A for a couple of reasons. @Grant's comment was what me start to think of it.

I feel that even if, whether to start off with or otherwise, we have question and answers here (along with other discussions) our questions and answers will probably be different than at SO or similar websites. I recently became an SO member to see what exactly happens there. I certainly wouldn't want to hang around there a lot. For while now, I've mainly asked any questions I've had at places that specifically meant for that purpose - #python on FreeNode for Python questions, etc. I've found that at #python you can have an interesting and educative discussion, unlike at SO where there is a mad rush to answer questions (5 minutes is often too long) just to earn reputation points. Most questions are on boring things like syntax, not about how to code, etc. I don't see us (as people who truly enjoy coding and don't do it simply for the sake of money) enjoying that sort of a discussion. It's unlikely that we'll be left squabbling over whether "return x if y else z" is 'pythonic' or not.

From what I remember of YC, we were a more friendly group possibly because we were younger and discussed things that weren't strictly got to do with programming itself - "hey I want to do this, does it sound like a good idea?". That isn't kind of discussion you would have on an objective, answer-oriented website.

Even if we have questions answered here, we will do it differently. People won't be in a maddening hurry to answer questions. What started off as a question could very well turn into an interesting discussion (e.g Singletons and the Borg pattern). Q&A needn't imply being answer-oriented.

As long as we have activity here, the answer to "who are we" will continuously evolve.

Let us know when it's ready :)

If you haven't noticed, the upgrade has happened. The main issue I had was I ran into some troubles getting banned from the server (multiple ftp sessions I guess?).

Yeah, I noticed that too. The stuff on the right column are all plugins so if we don't like them we can turn them off.

Cool.

Yes, i did that.
Delete any Sigcont.com cookies.

Yes. It's annoying. They are slightly different, but they are certainly doubled.

Not yet, however I have bookmarked 2 discussions so I start receiving the emails.

Edit: Hey guys. I see a similar bug on their git issues page. Though from the looks of it, it is for the next update.

Sorry, I haven't ignored your post. You guys are getting 2 similar but different emails right?

Sorry, I haven't ignored your post.

Huh? It never looked like you ignored any post.

Yeah, I was away.. Those are the 2 that I get... I took a quick glance a few days ago and didn't see anything, but I look some more.

Edit: I may have found the culprit.

For reference:
Line 383 of vanilla/models/class.commentmodel.php was changed
Line 119 of dashboard/models/class.activitymodel.php was commented out.

Good deal! I noticed I only got the 1 email now as well.

Upgrade complete. Noticing some odd things in the dashboard.

**Update**- Fixed some bugs. It looks like Transmit decided not to upload some queued files. Login/Register and the admin.css (the missing files) are now uploaded and working.

Modified the .htaccess file to tell the browser not cache php files. Hopefully this will help identifying new posts.

VanillForums still has 2.0.18 in beta. - Not Upgraded Yet

.18 came out. I am upgrading tonight.